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- Date
- September 1, 2026
- Participants
- Kristian Luoma Olivia Montgomery
The Coordination Tax is a podcast by In Parallel about what actually breaks down when teams stop sharing the same reality. In this episode, host Kristian Luoma sits down with Olivia Montgomery — principal analyst at Data Frame and, before that, a Gartner researcher who spent more than a decade studying how project management, PMOs, and organizational design actually work. The conversation is about the instinct every organization over 20 people has: when things get harder, add layers, add meetings, add controls. Olivia's argument is that each layer up the org chart knows less about what is really going on, not more — and that the fix is not more visibility for leadership but pushing decisions down two or three levels, to a place that feels uncomfortable.
Summary
- Meetings and tools are not the problem. Misuse is — the same meeting or tool does real work in one team and burns the week in another.
- Every layer up the org chart knows less about what's really going on, not more. Leadership's sense of clarity is almost always wrong.
- The fix isn't more visibility for leadership. It's pushing decisions down two or three levels — far enough that it feels uncomfortable.
- The Monday-morning test: can each person say what they own this week without asking anyone? If not, the clarity leadership believes exists doesn't.
- Mixing meeting types — status, brainstorm, decision — is one of the quietest destroyers of time in an organization. Each needs different people, different prep, different length.
- The first test to apply to any meeting or process: is this alleviating uncertainty? If it isn't, it's coordination overhead.
- Gartner-era research: formal PMOs measurably improve project delivery and success rates. The structure earns its keep when it removes uncertainty rather than adding reporting.
- Ten years of data show emotional intelligence in project leaders correlates with better project outcomes. It is a measurable performance driver, not a soft skill.
- A strict KPI focus creates dishonesty. People optimize for the number being reported rather than the reality it was meant to represent.
- AI tools built for engagement are silently eating the productivity gains their vendors promise — they are designed to keep you talking.
- Companies need a conscious AI vision of their own. Absent one, the vision gets set by whichever vendor sold in first.
- The product-research problem: too many tools are built for the builder rather than researched with the people who have to use them.
- The one thing to do this week: identify the decisions that require the most meetings, and ask honestly why the team doing the work can't make them.
What was discussed
Meetings and tools aren't the problem — misuse is
Key insight- The instinct in any organization over 20 people is to add layers, meetings, and controls when things get harder.
- The meeting or the tool is rarely the failure — how it is used is.
Nokia — every layer up knew less
Story- The pattern Olivia keeps finding — information degrades as it travels up, so each layer up the org chart knows less about what is really going on.
- Leadership's confidence in its own picture is the part that goes unexamined.
Push decisions down two or three levels
Highlight- The fix isn't more visibility for leadership — it's moving the decision to where the work is.
- Two or three levels down, far enough that it feels uncomfortable, is the target.
The Monday-morning clarity test
Key insight- Can each person say what they own this week without asking anyone?
- If they can't, the clarity leadership believes exists doesn't.
Stop mixing meeting types
Key insight- Status, brainstorm, and decision are three different meetings with different people, prep, and length.
- Mixing them is one of the most common quiet destroyers of time in an organization.
The first test: is this alleviating uncertainty?
Highlight- The single question to apply to any meeting or process before defending it.
- If it isn't reducing uncertainty for someone, it is coordination overhead.
Why PMOs actually work — the Gartner research
Key insight- Olivia's Gartner-era research consistently showed formal PMOs improve project delivery and success.
- The structure earns its keep when it removes uncertainty rather than adding another reporting layer.
Emotional intelligence in project leaders — 10 years of data
Key insight- A decade of data links emotional intelligence in project leaders to better project outcomes.
- It is a measurable performance driver, not a soft skill that sits outside delivery.
Why a strict KPI focus creates dishonesty
Highlight- People optimize for the number being reported rather than the reality it was meant to represent.
- The measurement regime quietly changes what teams are willing to say out loud.
AI tools are designed to keep you talking
Key insight- Tools built for engagement are silently eating the productivity gains their vendors promise.
- Engagement and productivity are opposing design goals, and buyers rarely check which one they bought.
Companies need a conscious AI vision, not a vendor-driven one
Key insight- Without a deliberate internal vision, the AI strategy is set by whichever vendor sold in first.
"You built a tool for yourself" — the product-research problem
Story- Too many tools are built for the builder rather than researched with the people who have to use them.
Closing advice: the one thing to do this week
Highlight- Identify the decisions that require the most meetings.
- Ask honestly why the team doing the work can't make them.
Links
Olivia Montgomery on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/olivia-montgomery
Data Frame: dataframe.consulting
The Coordination Tax Index 2026: download the report
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